Posts by Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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Elders want to visit after memorial !!

by lancelink in

well, i attended the memorial last night, and since i have been inactive for some time two of the elders came up to me afterwards.

they want to get together and discuss how to get me active again.

since i am going thru some withdrawal pains, i spinelessly agreed to talk with them this friday evening.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Lancelink-

Elders have been trained at manipulation. It's a century in the making. Depending on the brothers, they may take a hint and back off, so they can tell the CO that they tried. Or they may not take 'no' for an answer and be very confrontational and argumentative.

At this point, you still have choices:

Blow them off. Don't be home and avoid them from here on out. You will have to watch your back for unexpected calls.
Cancel and avoid reschedule.
Meet with them and be prepared to tell them 'no thanks' and be prepared to argue if they get unpleasant. Plenty of issues. Let us know which one you pick.
Meet with them, let them control you. Say 'yes, I need to do better'. Then don't do any better.
Meet with them, be reactivated, and wait for the big A that's sooooooooooooooo close.

Choose Wisely...

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Memorial invitations didn't work in my congo. Did they work in yours?

by outofthebox in

jw
friends

so, the people in my congo expended hours and hours distributing the invitations, but the attendance was the same as always (actually a little less than other years).

how about your congo?

-ootn

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Our cong had the highest attendance ever for memorial. Not a big deal when you look closely at the stats:

15% or more live outside the territory because they hate the cong they were attending.

15% were under the age of 5. At least from the crying it sounded more like 25%. Why can't the holy ghost keep the kids quiet for an hour? If God can get the governments to destroy false religion by his super manipulative powers, why can't he keep some kids quiet during church?

The extras were friends or family that came out of curiosity or threats by Jdubs. Since it was on a Saturday night during Easter weekend, they couldn't come up with a good excuse to blow off this year. They won't be back.

Sunday, today, was fewer than average in attendance.

B the X

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I used to cut the Borg some slack...but 10 years out?...The BASTARDS!!!!

by Alpaca in

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friends

i've been out for 10 1/2 years.. in the early days, after my departure, i was just glad to be out and going back to school.

i felt sorry for those who were still in living a life of delusion and failed/false dreams....and, in fact, i still do feel sorry for the r&f dubbies.

i used to even cut the borg's leadership some slack, thinking to myself that they were just caught up in their own delusions.. but, the longer i've been on jwd the madder i get at the borg leadership's outright deception, lies, coverups, and self-aggrandizing behavior.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Alpaca- "AMEN, come Lord whoever-you-are!!"

senora- I agree that a Pharisee mentality is spreading throughout the bOrg. In my personal experience, when GB member Lloyd Barry died in 1999, the hypocracy, stupidity, and lack of direction grew and spread faster than I ever would have imagined. I kept telling myself that the end must be very, very close. A few years later, it became clear that what was coming was the end of a delusional cult.

B the X

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1914 generation will not pass away .......

by moomanchu in

talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth.. http://www.watchtower.org/e/lmn/article_11.htm.

would you like to live in paradise?

if your answer is 'yes,' you will be thrilled to know that when jesus spoke of today's troubled system and "the sign" of its approaching destruction, he added, "this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

I'd say that they were partly right. I added some noolite to clarify:

There is little time left for them [WTBTS] to change. How thankful you [ex-JWs] can be that Jehovah [or the flying spaghetti monster] has provided warning [through JWD] in time! Because Jehovah [or the flying spaghetti monster] wants you to have life, he [Flipper, Simon, V, or somebody] will help you to take the right steps [through JWD].

There now, doesn't that make better sense?

The growth of the 80s and into the 90s was based on 'the generation'. Now, they're out of gas.

B the X

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Happy 8th Birthday JWD !

by Simon in

i'm just sat working on a new version of the forum (to bring it more up-to-date and make it better for non-ie browsers) and notice the date on the first post of the backup database that i'm working against ... 23 march 2000.. i can't believe it's been 8 years !

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thank you to everyone who has participated over the years and helped keep this place alive to help others coming out of the wts.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Thanks Simon & JWD !

I'm sure that JWD is the best reason that Jesus invented the Internet.

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My wife is thinking AT LAST!!!!!

by tooktheredpill in

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friends

hey guys!.

i can't wait to tell you something that happened last night.

in order to understarnd it, let me give you some details about me first: i'm still an elder, with my wife and the whole family and friends inside the borg.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Thanks for the update Pillman!

Good work on helping your wife. I'm not surprised that it's something directly from Beth-hell that would finally drive her away. I had an interesting conversation with my parents and others in the KH about that same dress and grooming directive from the GB. They were all, "this is something rather odd to send to every congregation." I was like, "we had to listen to crap like this in Bethel all the time. Rules, rules, and more rules."

B the X

25

My life - A brief history. Part 3 (conclusion)

by Galileo in

this is part 3 and the conclusion to my journey out.

part 1 can be found here, and part 2 is here.. .

truth.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Galileo ! Thanks so much for sharing Part 3 !

So, that's the history... next we'll want to hear about Galileo's future !... ah, but that will come in time.

Indeed, the future is something we will all have to carefully consider.

B the X

25

How close we are to the great Trib

by Tired of the Hypocrisy in

jw
friends

i got the following from a cousin who is hotly in the wt.

the last couple of lines are amazingly idiotic.....what do you all think?

idotic or not idiotic?

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Finally, open a copy of the brochure "Keep On the Watch" (2004)

Rather, don't open a copy of "Keep On the Watch". The January campaign of that brochure was cancelled this year, why? http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/147814/1.ashx
I believe it is only being shipped in very limited quantities.

Besides, on page 15, the stone has struck and the image is close to a 45 degree angle. This is 2008, 4 more years later. Shouldn't the big A already have happened if the artwork is inspired?

Oh, right, Armageddon has already occurred... invisibly.

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"Pioneer " Witnesses to me in McDonald's Parking Lot / I Reverse Witness!

by flipper in

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friends

so early this morning i had been working all night .

just got done eating mickeyd's in my truck , getting ready to take a nap before driving , and this jw young lady in her early 20's knocks on my closed window !

i put the window down and while forcibly handing the watchtower to me just says, " here is the watchtower !

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Good Job Flipper !

It seems obvious that she's been hit with the pedophile question before. That seemed a rather practiced response. No letter was sent to our congregation nor to any other that I've ever heard about.

The current, live, in-front-of-your-face question is what about the Gilbert Simental case playing out right now:

http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_C_trial06.439464c.html

http://www.mydesert.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880314011

Got any really good scriptures to justify protecting pedophiles from punishment by the superior authorities?

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Memorial conundrum - "So good to see you. Where have you been?"

by Meeting Junkie No More in

ok, gearing up for the memorial - our annual have to attend.

this is the first year that we will be showing up without having been to meetings in months.

on the last meeting i was cajoled into attending, i was bombarded with the above question.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

MJNM,

Hmmm, they really shouldn't be asking, "Where have you been?" That's an unwelcoming greeting, but some may use it. Frankly, what response should they expect:

Oh, were you looking for me?
Where have you been looking for me?
And where have you been?

Or you could say Reasoning from the Scriptures worthy: "Is that your usual response when someone has avoided attending meetings but comes back to give the congregation a second chance?"

Or maybe: "I was swallowed by the Internet and escaped earlier today."

& Hey big congrats to BEROEAN !!!

Post 100 of 100
since 10-May-07

10 months here, that's longer than me.
And now 100 posts.
You're a "Junior Member" of JWD now.
Your valuable contributions reinforce that the bOrg dangerously misleads and deceives.
You go, dude!!